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The Dark Knight Trilogy Epilogue: Poison Ivy by kinjamin The Dark Knight Trilogy Epilogue: Poison Ivy by kinjamin
This just might be my favorite TDK Epilogue piece. Somehow, everything came together really easily and it got done faster than I thought it would. Plus, I really like the concept I came up with for her. Her and Harley are like the Thelma and Louise of Gotham (I would lose my mind if they were paired up as the villains in a future Batman movie)

Some notes:

- Wanted to avoid her having super magical plant powers. But still wanted to maintain that she's obssessed with botany. Also wanted to keep her look very flora-themed. There's the fungal infection symptoms, of course, that explain the green areas of her skin and the vine-like raises all over her body. The green dress is the same one she was captured in (from panel 1) - but it's tattered in a way where it looks leafy.
- Her kissing of victims is pretty much a Poison Ivy staple.. thus the 'infect-by-saliva' method of her killings.
- I was in debate on the tattoo because I thought it would take away from the vine-y skin. However, I really wanted to give her some Japanese floral tats. I kept it in another layer in case I wanted to get rid of it.. but discovered it gave her a nice dynamic aesthetically. After awhile, it became a must-keep. It also balances out her colors, since the flower is the color of her hair.
- I really wanted Harley to be featured too. Always felt they look great together and I love how their colors clash. It almost makes me regret not getting this piece done in time for Christmas because of the red/green theme going on.
- People may notice a special guest-star in the shadows. There's actually a specific purpose for her being there... which will be explained later in another comic strip I had in mind. I also like the idea that the 'Gotham City Sirens' happened at some point in the movie continuity.
- Try to add as many factors from her original appearance as possible. In Batman 181, Ivy wore green tights on her legs. So I made the fungal infection more spread on her legs so green is more prevalent there.
- It was hard to indicate, but in panel 1, she's wearing a lot of make-up on her body to hide the green blotches skin vines.
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Valeyard-Parallax Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2014
Cool work! Is that a nipple I see you've drawn under her dress though?
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DrBookworm Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2015  Student General Artist
Why not? Humans have nipples.
:D
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Valeyard-Parallax Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2015
Fair point sir xD
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InfamousBane Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014
bit confused regarding the timeline of this, seeing as how Harley doesn't come into existence until after TDKR yet she's here with Poison Ivy after the events in TDK
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Filmographer
the first panel happens after TDK (I wrote 'after the death of H.Dent').. then in the second panel I wrote 'a decade later' indicating it happens after TDKR.

Harley in costume with Ivy in the foreground happens after that.
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2014  Professional Filmographer
oh actually my fault.. the second panel happens DURING TDKR (during the occupation of Gotham)

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Harley in costume happens years after that (which is why she's only a psychiatrist in the 2nd panel)
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InfamousBane Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2014
ah i see, thanks for the clarification. btw nice work on this one!
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jimmyRRpage Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2013
I was going to post this on your panel about the Joker, but my comment is centered on Poison Ivy, so I'm posting it here, instead.

I've actually thought about doing a very similar thing, here, as well, because I always hated that Batman just sort of completely disappears after Dent died, and so wanted to sort of fill in the intervening eight years... except for two problems:
a) I can't draw
b) I can't write

So anyways...

I love what you did, here, but I
always imagined Nolan doing Poison Ivy something like a "Black Widow"
of sorts, accept as a fanatic environmentalist. She would be called "Poison Ivy" only by the press and the GCPD because she'd use different and inventive types of poison to kill her victims, and leave a stem of poison ivy with the leaves still attached at her crime scenes.

I
thought it'd be interesting if, before her capture, she's referred to
as a "he" by the news and by the GCPD, due to a bit of latent/unexposed
sexism that no woman could be this heinous, but Batman knows better.

Pamela
Isley could also be a brilliant Chemist, which is how she's able to
dream up so many inventive poisons, as well as a world-renowned Botanist. Would be interesting if, before
Bruce figures out who she is, they start dating (she seduces him
assuming, since he's so wealthy and such, that he's another "plant
killer"), and at first she intends to make him another victim, but then
discovers that he's actually an environmentalist as well (if I had the ability to do comics, I kind of imagine drawing/writing a scene in which Pamela's about to kill Bruce, but then they have a discussion about environmentalism, and she has to undo everything because she thinks she has a potential ally who can understand her), so she tries
to convert him over to her way of thinking, unwittingly leading him to
discovering her identity as Poison Ivy (while she's never able to figure
out who Batman is, and so doesn't realize that it's her fault that Batman figured out who she was; and even after he knows, Bruce continues to date her
only so as to keep her from being suspicious, until he, as Batman, leads to her arrest).

I'd lose the "kills with a kiss" thing (specifically that she has poison flowing through her veins) only to keep Nolan's "realism" intact... seduction remains, of course, and she still kills with poison, only via more conventional methods, like mixing it into drinks and food and such, although I don't think it'd be much of a stretch for her to have created a specific poison that she builds up an immunity to so that she can wear it as lipstick, thus keeping the "kills with a kiss" intact after all. I would have definitely had plant-themed tattoos on her, and kept her as a redhead, though.

My problem is
trying to decide how the story (and all my "Nolan's versions of Batman villains) would best be told: like you did here, as
it happens in real time, or via Pamela herself telling the story after
being captured...

I've also thought about how Nolan might have
imagined other iconic Batman villains, such as Penguin (perhaps he's a
Moriarty type who happens to like the nick-name because penguins are his
favorite animal, but not because of the way he looks or anything like
that), and even Killer Croc (perhaps a man who keeps crocodiles as pets and uses them to do his dirty work? Perhaps he could be one of Penguin's stooges). I'm having the most trouble with Clayface and Mister Freeze. While I like your take on Mister Freeze a lot, I really want to stick with Nolan's "realism", and I'm starting to think that Mister Freeze and Clayface may not fit at all...
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TheDawrkKnight Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2014
I think with a bit of tweaking both clay face and mr fries work In the Nolan universe, first off we would have to take away the supernatural element of shapeshifting from clayface and make him an aesthetic/vocal impressionist who is able to costume and make up himself  as several people, & Mr fries is obviously a scientist who is caught in the middle of a war between cobble pot and black mask thus black mask kidnaps his wife and he works for cobble pot (weapons dealer) and creates several weapons for cobblepot but later  realizes cobblepot is just using him and has no real intention to help him, fries primary weapon is a oxygen like tank dispenser that releases liquid nitrogen, cobblepot realizing Fries could hinder his plans has him locked up (like in Arkham city). 
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abiyasha Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2013
Woah!! Great!
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TheDawrkKnight Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013
Hey man this might sound odd but it would be nice if you have her some slim glasses to allude to her days as a botanic doctor or scientist or whateve and maybe some multiple bracelets with a flower in her hair of some sort like how this guy made Ariel from the little mermaid " j-scott-campbell.deviantart.co… ". since you didn't like Jessica beals realistic Nolan hipsterized Ivy
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darkphyre0 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This design is genius. Logical, realistic and bitchin'!

Pure awesome!
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wildman365 Featured By Owner May 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think we should make a mini series based on this...
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dannysmicros Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
Hey I know im late on this but these R the best fan fics I've ever read. U story telling and artwork R awesome also I have a few questions U mention 9 accounts of batman after Harvey dents death R U guna make all 9 if so will U use firefly and deathstroke as they have action figures related to the franchise but no story, so that my b a cool thing for U to jump into, love what uve done with the characters would love to c more, and in ur strip with the bat family reuniting in Aruba (love Damians line btw) what's the emergency back in Gotham that needs Bruce Wayne back (it has to be joker). And one last thing do U think bane is dead at the end tdkr ??? Keep up good work hope for more soon and I think U shud use all ur stuff to make the 4th movie in a graphic novel style for us guys to read
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IAM-ARTIST Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013
I once brainstormed ideas as to how to nolanize other Batman villains. One idea was have Poison Ivy be a a poison manufacturer made out of plants and herbs; thoughts I had was sell the poisons to assassins and black market, another being Scarecrow's personal manufacturer. Another idea was also serve as a female mafia hitwoman with those poisons. But your idea also works too.
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HelloIamGracie Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like how you kind of "Nolan-ized" this one, Poison Ivy (was always one of my faves, I love plants!) but also would be the hardest one to make somewhat believable. I like how you designed her. I love the flower tattoos, because they just add this x-factor, like they make her more modern, she can be a very avid environmentalist and can still have killer tatts. I also like how you didn't make her ALL green. Green splotches make it much more of a believable disease... or fungus... or whatever. And I like the swirly patterns too. Some could argue that it makes it look to weird... I don't know how they would put it... but it actually reminds me of a ring worm... or some other type of parasite. (I watch a LOT of Discovery Channel). There's these nasty buggers that are at the top of your skin and CAN raise it in gross/cool (as long as it wasn't happening to me) patterns. I know because some kid in my high school got something like that from those nasty wrestling mats... um, ew. I'm looking forward to the in-between panel/s that show how Harley gets her out, or why she wants to get her out. Anyway, love the design!
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Sorry you guys will have to wait a bit. Not sure if ill get anything done until the end of Feb. I've had some family matters I've had to attend to.
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spiderxand Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013
Who else do you have in mind to bring in?
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bobbunyan Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013
Are you thinking of doing a Riddled one for February?
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piemaster1446 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
When Harley goes out and creates chaos, what happens to Joker? Does he ever get cured or is he *sniff sniff* gone?
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SilkenWinds Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
If you watch the TDK returns animated movie,Joker comes out of his catatonic state when he hears Batman is back (on the TV).
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I like to keep that vague. Maybe Joker isn't really comatose and is really the mastermind behind the chaos Harley causes. OR he really is in an awake coma and won't revive until the original Batman returns to Gotham (and I do plan to have Bruce come back in his later years to oversee Terry)
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alannahowe Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013
Fantastic, I love the thought that went in to her character. I think the 'superpower' craze has somewhat diminished and this kind of rough and real character is exactly what people want these days. Excellent work.
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 23, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Oh thanks! That means a lot because I really love YOUR Ivy art piece!
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alannahowe Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2013
And I'm flattered in turn. You have a really good grasp on physical form, as well as fabrics (which I personally find very difficult), and the level of detail in each of your pages is truly admirable (I'm still admiring the lace and brocade on Harley Quinn's costume) :)
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aditya-dragon-iyer Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
awesome! waiting for more :D
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BP-Adept Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Who is that person near the vent on the upper right corner of the page?
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Professional Filmographer
That would be Catwoman... I'll explain it in a future piece
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piemaster1446 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013
Will you do Harvey Bullock?
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bobbunyan Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
Who are you considering next?
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I have a couple of Epilogue ideas, including the Riddler - but I also wanted to explore some things that happened (I'm my head anyway) during the occupation of Gotham
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bobbunyan Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
That sounds really cool. I was hoping for a Riddler. There are so many things to do with him
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Reieduardo123 Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013
Are you going to put Catwoman and Talia as rivals in the epilogues?
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I totally would.. not sure how I'd handle it though. I know I'm pretty much insinuating Talia is still alive, but haven't figured out a good feasible angle to actually show it (I want though.. especially since Damian exists)
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Stone-Fever Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013
Great minds think alike! Click Me!
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mathboyjjjj Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
There's one thing I'm confused about. I really like your gotham sirens idea, but when does the harley visiting ivy take place? Does it take place ten years from the second sighting of the batman, because by that point shouldn't bruce and selina be long gone?
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Filmographer
Nah it takes place during the occupation of Gotham (while Bruce is in the pit for 5 months)
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Nerdman3000 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
I'd like to see Talia al Ghul and The Phantasm(Andrea Beaumont) both have a piece.
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BigTPotts Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh wow. This is amazing. And I can see your guest star!
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ECKohns Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pioson Ivy is by far my favorite villain, and I think you did a really good job! I'm really liking you stuff. Can you do Tim Drake next!
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Deadpoolfan1999 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Brilliant, just simply brilliant! I gotta admit, I had speculations about how she'd be handled in "real world' perspective, but you've simply done it again! Just simply amazing and keep up the golden work!
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Reieduardo123 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
ideas for katana?
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I'm a little hesitant introducing the JLA to the epilogue stuff.. I already have too many ideas in my head for the Batman universe. Also, interested to see what the Man of Steel and Justice League movies do with the characters first.

Thought of ideas for Katana.. she's so awesome in BoP.. nothing concrete yet.
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Reieduardo123 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
How about the last epilogue be Terry or Blake joining JLA?
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bobbunyan Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
Here's Penguin: Oswald Cobblepot was a lesser force during the events of the Dark Knight. He mainly stored money and protected it for te mob. When most of the money was destroyed, the remaining members of the mob found him hiding and paralized him with a severe stomping. Cobblepot's right eye was severely scarred from the stomping as well. The GCPD eventually found him lying unconscious and brought him to Blackgate Prison. Cobblepot was wheelchair bound and was constantly bullied by his fellow prisoners. He spent so many years there plotting his revenge against everyone who had ruined him, especially the mob. When Bane let the prisoners out, Cobblepot was brought to the Iceberg Lounge, which had been shut down after Cobblepot was taken to prison, by Roman Sionis, an old "friend" in the Mob. Sionis and Cobblepot worked together at the iceberg lounge and "ressurected" the mob. Cobblepot became in charge. By the time that the new Batman arose Sionis and Ckbblepot had parted ways, each leaving their marks on each other and each leading their own gang...
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xblackfired10 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013
Amazing work as always, I never liked how most of Batman's villains had powers, and you did a great job grounding Ivy & Freeze in reality.
If you need help with ideas, I've been thinking up a way to tie Jason Todd into the series for my own Batman Universe;
Jason was a young homeless child who idolized the Batman, and often dreamed of him making him his sidekick. Then during the events of The Dark Knight Jason was one of the Joker's earlier victims, he witnessed something and beaten with a crowbar until he went into a coma. During the beating only one thought ran through his head, Where's Batman? His lifeless body was later found by Talia who was preparing for her plan, and she nursed him back to health and trained to become her "Plan B". After the events of The Dark Knight Rises Jason returned to Gotham as the Red Hood, a dangerous new player in Gotham's underworld who is eliminating the competition, or so it seems.
Anyway if that helps inspire you awesome, if not...Well at least I tried.
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kinjamin Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Professional Filmographer
holy crap.. that's actually really close to my idea for Jason. I definitely had the Joker beating him into a coma with a crowbar in mind. I was going to have him be a street rat in the Narrows beforehand, too.
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xblackfired10 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
Street rat, homeless child, so long as he was on the street beforehand it works, otherwise is there really any other way to do Jason without killing him? His origin is works pretty well in the Nolanverse.
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piemaster1446 Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
Maybe he could die. Using Scarecrow's fear gas, his death could be hallucinated. :)
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xblackfired10 Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013
I've got it, Jason was the kid from Batman Begins, the one who lived in the Narrows and his parents were obviously in an abusive relationship. They were killed the night of the breakout and Jason lived on the streets ever since, then all the stuff I said earlier happened.
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